An awkward Question from Cosca
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An awkward Question from Cosca
O.k....I want to ask something and I'm struggling with how to put it so I will just lay it out there....
When we began to consider resurecting the guild as GNHU I thought it would be a good idea to pick up some new players because...to be frank...there was maybe five of us left? So I turned to YouTube and threw out the net....well....we caught a lot more fishes than I bargained on and the great majority of those particular fishes happen to be of the LGBT variety. That is great...however, my purpose was not to "gay up" the guild but to provide a gaming environment where everyone can be exactly who and what they are without changing that to suit the fears/biases of others. Which means Heaan would be free to throw all the ennuendo he wants as long as he can take it in return....Yes heaan, I'm lookin at you.
A new Nerfherder recomended an alliance with a guild that is predominately LGBT and it made me stop for a second to consider where this whole thing is going and how it will affect you guys. I want this guild to be as comfortable for you guys as I do for anyone else...and you are my friends, your opinions matter. Many of you have been in this guild since day one.
So...my question is:
I would appreciate honest answers and it's ok to voice your fears and concerns. Also, I need to say that I have also reached out to guilds like DotA for alliances. The goal for me is that we all have a place were we can joke and play...and occasionally argue....as one big family with all the disfunctionality that comes with that.
Let me know what you think
Cosca
When we began to consider resurecting the guild as GNHU I thought it would be a good idea to pick up some new players because...to be frank...there was maybe five of us left? So I turned to YouTube and threw out the net....well....we caught a lot more fishes than I bargained on and the great majority of those particular fishes happen to be of the LGBT variety. That is great...however, my purpose was not to "gay up" the guild but to provide a gaming environment where everyone can be exactly who and what they are without changing that to suit the fears/biases of others. Which means Heaan would be free to throw all the ennuendo he wants as long as he can take it in return....Yes heaan, I'm lookin at you.
A new Nerfherder recomended an alliance with a guild that is predominately LGBT and it made me stop for a second to consider where this whole thing is going and how it will affect you guys. I want this guild to be as comfortable for you guys as I do for anyone else...and you are my friends, your opinions matter. Many of you have been in this guild since day one.
So...my question is:
Is the fact that we may have a very gay friendly gaming environment with possible alliances with other similar guilds something that makes you uncomfortable?...and...is the guild moving in a direction that you still feel comfortable being a part of?
I would appreciate honest answers and it's ok to voice your fears and concerns. Also, I need to say that I have also reached out to guilds like DotA for alliances. The goal for me is that we all have a place were we can joke and play...and occasionally argue....as one big family with all the disfunctionality that comes with that.
Let me know what you think
Cosca
cosca- Posts : 217
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Re: An awkward Question from Cosca
You people never read anything
cosca- Posts : 217
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Re: An awkward Question from Cosca
I'm perfectly fine with it. The way i see it, it is a life choice. If you respect mine i shall respect yours in turn. Plus the more friends the merrier right?
Inenor Ietageed- Posts : 206
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Re: An awkward Question from Cosca
Yes...this is true Ine. And I will not tolerate anyone acting in a disrespectfull manner to others regardless of what walk of life they may come from. I just don't want you guys to feel like you are drownding in it. Perhaps my fears are unfounded....so far everyone has been mellow on the forums. Which means I am probably over reacting. Besides...NOTHING these guys could say or do could possibly be more provocative than an average play session with our cherished and beloved Heaan...who makes me laugh and blush with embarrasment all at the same time
cosca- Posts : 217
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Re: An awkward Question from Cosca
I think i know what you're getting at, i'm thinking of that scene in the movie police academy where the two dumb cops get mislead into the blue oyster club, classic. That has to be on youtube.
My thoughts are kinda what inenor said, its a lot of people but it doesn't bother me. I wouldn't start adding labels, you'd end up excluding people.
Also, since the friend and foe spots are limited, i'd wait til a situation in game popped up to decide who goes in there. It's no good to fill it in with strangers, wait til you find the person you want to throw your shoe at, then mark them down.
My thoughts are kinda what inenor said, its a lot of people but it doesn't bother me. I wouldn't start adding labels, you'd end up excluding people.
Also, since the friend and foe spots are limited, i'd wait til a situation in game popped up to decide who goes in there. It's no good to fill it in with strangers, wait til you find the person you want to throw your shoe at, then mark them down.
tan- Posts : 664
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Re: An awkward Question from Cosca
Thanks for the thoughtfull reply TUN and Ine. It is appreciated. Now if I could just find that shoe....
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Re: An awkward Question from Cosca
speaking of Heaan....he has been absent for some time. Is he still even reading these things?
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Re: An awkward Question from Cosca
I don't have a problem with a person's sexuality. Honestly, though gay or straight i don't care to hear intimate details about ones sex life. I don't mind hearing about TUN's sex life cause there's only so much you can do to yourself.
Batman
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Vecau- Posts : 174
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Re: An awkward Question from Cosca
OK...i have a question too...Is the word "gay" considered offensive or it is just a word to describe a class. Is it considered like black, white or hispanic? Or is homosexual be less offensive?
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Vecau- Posts : 174
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Re: An awkward Question from Cosca
OMG of course i read these forums silly. Ive found a new thing to do that I enjoy. Peeing on my boys. Dude its freaking awesome. Oh and Im off the gay thing for now I am more into telling stories about my new blow up doll girlfriend. Her name is Fatty Patty. Im kinda in love. I have been getting the reputation lately of being the one with a hole in the basement and skinning women but people dont know anything they just guessing.
Gay people are fun I am ok with it. My favorite customer is a cross dresser he/she bakes me cookies and pies
Gay people are fun I am ok with it. My favorite customer is a cross dresser he/she bakes me cookies and pies
Heaan- Posts : 53
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Re: An awkward Question from Cosca
@Heaan...I'm Jealous...I want cookiees and pies
@Vec There is nothing wrong with saying gay. Like most descriptive words it only matters how you use it. I have met "African-Americans" who are offended when a white person uses the word black and "Black" persons who refuse to be refered to as African-American. And we all know that the tone and context you use a word like Black, Hispanic, or Asian makes a world of difference...gay is just the same. And no one(except Heaan) is going to divulge detail about their sexual lives unless you go their first...fair warning.
cosca- Posts : 217
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Re: An awkward Question from Cosca
Check my facebook out people pay me with cupcakes.
Jerry morse
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My craigslst ad. its kinda funny
http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/sks/2559237405.html
Jerry morse
plumbmasta@comcast.net
My craigslst ad. its kinda funny
http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/sks/2559237405.html
Heaan- Posts : 53
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Re: An awkward Question from Cosca
Hey the ad's expired.
Vec likes Wham.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIgZ7gMze7A
Vec likes Wham.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIgZ7gMze7A
tan- Posts : 664
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Re: An awkward Question from Cosca
those cupcakes looked awesome...I never should have looked before dinner ....so hungry..
cosca- Posts : 217
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Re: An awkward Question from Cosca
Redid my ads
http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/sks/2617929548.html
and
http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/sks/2618677226.html
http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/sks/2617929548.html
and
http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/sks/2618677226.html
Heaan- Posts : 53
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Re: An awkward Question from Cosca
"go pee in a bucket"
Great ad, i'd call you in a heartbeat. I get the impression that you could build a house from scratch, i've always wanted to do that... could probably do a log cabin, no windows.
Great ad, i'd call you in a heartbeat. I get the impression that you could build a house from scratch, i've always wanted to do that... could probably do a log cabin, no windows.
tan- Posts : 664
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Actually I do like Wham! Thanks for posting TUN.
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Vecau- Posts : 174
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Re: An awkward Question from Cosca
I know you like them, that's why i added the link. Whenever that song or video plays i think of you.
tan- Posts : 664
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Re: An awkward Question from Cosca
Basically whenever i see men dancing around in short shorts i think of you.
tan- Posts : 664
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I won't ask where you see men dancing around in shorts?
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Re: An awkward Question from Cosca
Okay, honesty time.
First of all, I think the world of Cosca and Amola. Don't get me wrong in anything I say as a personal attack.
I don't mind a persona's sexuality. That's their preference, I hold nothing against that of anyone.
What I do mind are the people that push their views in a hateful manner. I think of Rosie O'Donnel when I say this. She spews hate whenever she speaks and is a bitter person.
My thoughts have always been "if that's your choice, fine. Just dont push it on me." Just like how Christians shouldn't be standing in front of abortion clinics. Or any religion preaching that everyone elses' views are wrong.
I do believe that everyone should have the opportunity to love and marry if they find that special person. Absolutely.
I agree and support Cosca and Amola's endeavors online and in Washington. Like I said, I am a firm believer in equality.
The only reservations i have is when the community starts pushing their LGBT agenda and I am a straight man, or that I would find myself being "hit on" by another man.
I find for myself that the MMO commmunity presents the "opportunity" to possibly meet someone with like-minded interests that "may" present itself. Granted, I don't really count on it, but who knows?
(which is why I secretly been going to Fan Faire for the past 5 years for SWG)
I see this a lot in my current league in DCUO where a buddhist is constantly talking about his way of living and how he hates how Christians always preach that he is wrong.
I respect everyone's views and try to be a peacemaker to find a middle ground. We don't always have to agree to enjoy each others views, ya know?
So, having said all that. I encourage the Nerfherders to go in this direction, I think that if you can make a stronger guild with people of likemindedness in personal and gaming lives, go for it.
I would like to still join in having fun with the group, but I honestly don't think I would be comfortable joining as a guild member. I hope you understand my reservations.
First of all, I think the world of Cosca and Amola. Don't get me wrong in anything I say as a personal attack.
I don't mind a persona's sexuality. That's their preference, I hold nothing against that of anyone.
What I do mind are the people that push their views in a hateful manner. I think of Rosie O'Donnel when I say this. She spews hate whenever she speaks and is a bitter person.
My thoughts have always been "if that's your choice, fine. Just dont push it on me." Just like how Christians shouldn't be standing in front of abortion clinics. Or any religion preaching that everyone elses' views are wrong.
I do believe that everyone should have the opportunity to love and marry if they find that special person. Absolutely.
I agree and support Cosca and Amola's endeavors online and in Washington. Like I said, I am a firm believer in equality.
The only reservations i have is when the community starts pushing their LGBT agenda and I am a straight man, or that I would find myself being "hit on" by another man.
I find for myself that the MMO commmunity presents the "opportunity" to possibly meet someone with like-minded interests that "may" present itself. Granted, I don't really count on it, but who knows?
(which is why I secretly been going to Fan Faire for the past 5 years for SWG)
I see this a lot in my current league in DCUO where a buddhist is constantly talking about his way of living and how he hates how Christians always preach that he is wrong.
I respect everyone's views and try to be a peacemaker to find a middle ground. We don't always have to agree to enjoy each others views, ya know?
So, having said all that. I encourage the Nerfherders to go in this direction, I think that if you can make a stronger guild with people of likemindedness in personal and gaming lives, go for it.
I would like to still join in having fun with the group, but I honestly don't think I would be comfortable joining as a guild member. I hope you understand my reservations.
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Re: An awkward Question from Cosca
Think about it art, you'll get to play with new lesbian friends full time, i can't wait.
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[quote="tan"]Think about it art, you'll get to play with new lesbian friends full time, i can't wait.
Maybe so, but that means they wouldn't want me cause Im not a lesbian
Maybe so, but that means they wouldn't want me cause Im not a lesbian
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